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Celia M Paddock's avatar

I think the key element of The United States v. Wong Kim Ark (1898) is this: "have a permanent domicile and residence in the United States, and are there carrying on business."

Illegal aliens *inherently* lack the ability to have a permanent residence in the U.S., since they are susceptible to deportation at any time. And an illegal alien who is living off government largesse can hardly be said to be "carrying on business."

As little as I dislike rewarding bad behavior, I would be willing to accept a path to permanent residence (not necessarily citizenship) for illegals under the following circumstances:

- been in the U.S. longer than ten years

- can speak English fluently enough to understand immigration court proceedings

- never convicted of crime, regardless of how minor

- never lived on government welfare

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

This essay raises all manner of questions and concerns. They need raising and answering.

First, the Presidential "swipe of a pen."

In this case, will President Trump argue that his authority for this EO comes from Article II's authority to manage federal operations? That he sees the influx of illegal aliens as falling under that authority since the U.S. has federal immigration laws? Apparently, he does. Apparently, he is taking the "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" very literally.

Under the Articles, persons were citizens of their State since there was no national government. The Constitution and then the War of Northern Aggression cleared the path for a national government. The jurisdiction and authority of the national government then superseded that of the States. That's what Americans have lived with ever since.

As a property rights question, on what basis does anyone argue the lawfulness of forced payment and support for those "alien" to the country? For the "beautiful" people of Massachusetts who want these people cared for, they have every right in the world to do so in their own homes. That is, they have every right to be charitable.

Yet, their elected federal representatives and others from around the country have enacted federal legislation managing the influx of foreign nationals into the country. So if those beautiful people put their money where their mouths are, housing, feeding, educating, providing healthcare, etc., would violate federal law.

So, if we support the idea of being "subject to a national government's jurisdiction," (How many did for the first "Roe v. Wade" Supreme Court decision?), how does a woman subject to another national government's jurisdiction (citizen status) pass on to her child the jurisdiction of a national government to which she is not subject? Simply because she "dropped" the baby on the soil of that national government?

I'm rambling...While I do not support Trump's "swipe of the pen" on this, it has raised very important questions that needed raising -- and answering.

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